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2011-2012 FALL/WINTER ROSTERS
FALL/WINTER SESSION
Ok here we go..........Fall winter season will start Sept 11 or 12th depending on the turnout of the 3 on 3 and run through the end of March. The league consists of currently 5 divisions. A, B gold, B silver, C and Rec. We might be splitting the C league into a C gold and C silver as well, or if anyone has any other bright ideas of what to name them I am game. The A and B league will be 34-35 games and the C and rec will be playing 30 games. With the opening of the rink at Notre Dame in October, we anticipate more ice for us to utilize and since last years 26 game session, most of the feedback I got was they wanted to play more games. exceptions will be ND faculty, Goshen college and maybe Andrews. Games are typically Sunday through Thursday, with the high school using the ice Friday and Saturday nights. That might change in the fall, and as I write this now, we plan to keep it that way, but if anything changes I will let the captains know. Game times on Sunday can start as early as 3pm, although rare, and go as late as 9:30. Weeknight games are as early as 7pm and no later than 10:15. We are pretty spoiled, as games in Chicago can be as late as 1am. For those getting the 10:15 game, suck it up, you really don't know how worse it could be.
A league is run by Brandon Rigby, his contact info is brandonr@steelwarehouse.net and cell number is 574-286-7342. The games are typically on Thursday nights and an occasional Sunday game this year in order to get in the 34-35 game schedule. Brandon will be the contact for A league for all your questions. They are mainly looking for ex-high school players, former junior players and college kids to fill out the teams. The level of play is up there. They usually have a 4 team draft. Again, contact Brandon with any questions.
B League is still competitive, but not as fast as the A league. B league is split between B gold and B silver.
C league is the former Beginners league and last year had grown to 12 teams. The level of parity, has seemed to disappear now that it has grown and we have seen some of the hot shots from the B league starting to drop down to the C league and start dominating some of the games. I think the solution will be to start splitting up the C league and see how it goes. We will discuss this at the captains meeting. C league is still competitive, but I guess I would classify it as
just a step above REC
Rec league is for beginners and has been a great entry level league for those who haven't played before. It's not as competitive, and more for the fun of the game. Many of the guys/gals going through the adult boot camp are fed into the rec league and teams, including myself will be looking for players to fill out their rosters.
I will be posting a link to the rosters on the eteamz website. Those looking for a team in the fall, please email me with their contact information and skill level, and I will do my best (no promises) to get you on a team.
DISCIPLINARY BOARD
We currently have a disciplinary board made up of Brandon Rigby, Dave mensik, Kevin nobes, Todd Montgomery, matt popovic, and Mike KLute. Incidents are typically reported to us by the refs and we make our recommendations and relay them to the captains. Currently it's basically a 3 strikes and you're out type of deal although we can use our discretion and boot guys on a first offense. We will tweaking this at the board meeting.
LEAGUE FEES
The league fees consist of 4 things Ice rental fees, refs, security fee, insurance and a management fee I call the "sax tax". I use these factors to come up with the costs for the season and stand behind my figures so people don't think I pulled a number out of a hat. I will go into this now.
Ice fees have gone up $5 an hour from last year. We are now at $265 an hour, which in our case is sometimes more than an hour, but our games are 3 18 minute periods, running clock. We get a 5 minute warm up and we get to stop the clock when a game is within 2. So as you see its sometimes more than 60 minutes, but you get the picture. Nobody is kicked off the ice when the 60 minutes is up and we are allowed to finish our game. I am trying to make a point about how good we have it and other rinks don't give that flexibility. The $5 is miniscule and I don't feel there a reason to complain.
Refs currently are paid $20 a game, but I am going to put it to the board that they get paid $22 a game. Yeah that's a 10% raise, but it's really a thankless job and although its small, I am hoping it attracts more refs into the mix. With 2 rinks running simultaneously this fall it will be harder to pull from the same pool. Just a note USAH refs in the IYHL make as much as 50-70 bucks a game, so we get what we pay for. Shannon hyduk runs and schedules all our refs and if you're interested in reffing, email him shyduk@holladayproperties.com or call 574-339-0012 Anyone, who has never reffed before should try it. I have in the past reffed and it's a real eye opener. Players always think they know more than the refs until they have tried it.
Security fees are used to pay the security detail in the parking lot and was implemented last year. Its $10 bucks a head and I figure it based on a team fee. I am not in the mood to do a head count and if you're playing on two teams, the team contribution will be the same. I base it on a 14 man roster, whether you have more or less. So $140 per team.
Insurance came in cheaper than I thought. I bid it out to two separate companies and so far we are at $15 bucks a head down from $25 last year. We have two policies. One is an umbrella general liability policy that insures the ice box and any other facility we play at for $1 million and we have a accidental policy. The accidental policy is a secondary to ones primary insurance with a $1000 deductible and a max payout of $25k. This only kicks in if your primary doesn't cover everything. In the case where one doesn't have primary insurance this would be it. This policy covers anyone on the ice...........period! I base the fee on a roster of 14 guys. If you have less or more, it's still the same. So $210 per team
The Sax tax is my management fee. I put countless hours into the league and I use it to cover my league fees. I will also be using it for the 2 $200 vouchers being raffled off at the Back to hockey day, and in the past we have used it for shooter tutors, a TV and backup goalie gear for the league. It all goes back to the rink, and we have a surplus so I can sleep well at night. I am tacking on $15 a team, or basically a buck a guy to cover this. I honestly don't feel guilty asking for it.
So let's add it up.......right now we are looking at a 30 game schedule for rec and C and 35 for A and B
costs based on 30 games $265 ice $22 each ref (to be voted on)
ice/refs (265+44)/2 *30= $4635
security $140 ($10 each based on a 14 man roster)
insurance =$210 ($15 each based on a 14 man roster)
"sax tax" =$15 ( to cover my league fees....and because I am a greedy bastard)
total =$5000
For the A/B and 35 games
add (265+44)/2*5=$747.50 Let's just say $775 (I like round numbers) or $5775 for 35 games
Based on a 14 man roster
30 games = $357 let's just say $360
35 games =$413
(can you tell I like numbers?)
Last year we played 26 games for $4425= $170 a game and this year 30 games= $167 per game or 35 games for $5775= $165 per game So even though the team fee went up, the cost dropped slightly. I hope I haven't bored you to death, but I just wanted to show where I came up with that figure, and I am sure many of you are curious about it.
So rec and C teams $5000 and A and B teams $5775
COLLECTIONS
Guys collecting fees has always been the worst part of the job. Yes I get comped for this, but this summer has pushed me to the brink. I am not at the rink as much as I used to be and some of the captains haven't been on top of this like they should be. Captains are in charge of collecting fees. This won't fly in the fall. All teams have a few deadbeats that don't carry the teams financially and they will be outed at the captains meeting. All league fees must be in by Sept 1st and teams who in the past have these people on their teams should drop them. We will let the captains know who they are and that if you want one of these guys on the team that they will have to pay up front. I will post a link on the eteamz website of the rosters and payments as they are booked.
PAYMENT OPTIONS
Here are your options to pay, cash, check or pay pal. Theres a PayPal link on the website where you can pay by credit card. PayPal charges me 3%, so please include that if you want to go that route. If you pay by check(s) you can post date them. If your team fee is $400 you can write me 2 checks for $200, 3 checks for $133 or 4 checks for $100 each dated Sept 1st, Oct 1st, Nov 1st, Dec 1st as an example. You get the idea. I will hold your check and deposit it on the date its written on or slightly after. Checks can be made out to me or SBSHL . They can be dropped off at the rink and given to any rink worker to "drop in the safe" or mailed to my house
Jeff Sax
2804 s twyckenham dr
south bend, IN 46614
I am extremely flexible and willing to work with anyone who asks for it. Once I get your payment I book it and post it next to your name on the roster website, so guys can check and see how your teams money has come in. This also shows the others who on their team HASNT paid. Games for the season won't be posted until the team is paid in full, so teams pick your players wisely. Drop the dead weight!! Please remember post dated checks are considered payment up front. The hassle I have had in the past is emailing the captains on a weekly basis to get the fees in. I cant continue to do this. Maybe we need to tack on a late fee or reward those who pay early?? That will be decided at the captains meeting.
GOALIES LIST BELOW
Jack basich jackbasich@yahoo.com 219-508-0126 cell
phil nowak ptnowak@gmail.com 574.309.5888 cell
tony hartman thartman@egh.org 574 849-0735 cell
aaron bell aaronbell@hotmail.com 248 470 7174 cell
gary johnson garysjohnson@gmail.com 269-470-7933 cell
ed hickman edjr@edhickman.com 574 320 7071 cell
tim nush drtimnush@gmail.com 574-238-9256 cell
john banks jcbanks@andrews.edu 269.471.3206 day 269.471.1086 home
jeff hawes 574-243-3811 cell
josh setser (574)303-8886 cell
TJ hixon 574-329-6155
vic zurek kodiak104@juno.com 574-206-6511
arik ronski asr781@yahoo.com 574-343-4649 (M) 574-215-4115 (H)
rob morgan morgrc@comcast.net, 574-299-1627 (h), 574-360-9496 (m)
Mark Young 574-339-4134 cell
mike lynn mikelynn4200@yahoo.com 574-333-5756 cell
todd montgomery 574-520-0094
tom montague 574-226-3926 tom.montague@gmail.com
Dan Klute 214-205-1222 dklute@gmail.com
rory iwaniuk 269-591-2445
brian streu 269-277-4369
jay rizzi 574-631-2625 work 574-232-2017 home Jay.Rizzi.4@nd.edu
billy beirne wbeirne1@nd.edu 574-261-6475 B league goalie
jp joubert iceman2415@hotmail.com 574-993-7274
MATT BROTHERS 574-855-7000 MATTBROTHERS02@GMAIL.COM
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