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Batter requesting timeout
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Playing 14U ASA- 1st batter of the game. My Pitcher takes position on plate, brings her hands together and as she makes her first movement to the plate, batter asks for and is granted a timeout. Clearly (IMO) attempting to disrupt the pitcher's timing. 3rd batter does the same thing at the same moment. Blue again grants timeout. I approach PU between innings and ask about allowing the timeouts after the pitcher moves to bring her hands together. He advised me that he can grant a timeout whenever he thinks it is appropriate.
Second inning, first batter does the same thing. The next batter again does it, blue calls time, but my pitcher is in motion. She pulls up and rolls a slow grounder towards the batters box that the batter hops over. At that point, blue calls out opposing coach and puts and end to it and instructs my pitcher to always finish her motion even if the batter asks for timeout. It doesn't happen again.
2 questions -
1-While I understand the ump's discretion, is there a "standard" point after which a timeout is generally not granted?
2- What would be the call if in the last scenario that rolling pitch had hit the batter? Ump had granted timeout before the release.
Thanks
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Posted: 9/24/2009 1:48pm
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Re: Batter requesting timeout
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Speaking ASA
1-While I understand the ump's discretion, is there a "standard" point after which a timeout is generally not granted?
The umpire is correct, his/her call.
Have to question your perception of the timing. If the pitcher was that far along in her delivery, the umpire would not have been able to make the call quick enough for your pitcher to check up. It takes a couple of seconds for the process of the batter making a request and the umpire granting it. "Time out" should not be granted once the pitch has started which is when the hands separate, not just the pitcher beginning to move.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda, it still comes down to the umpire.
A pitcher should ALWAYS follow through with any pitch which has started.
2- What would be the call if in the last scenario that rolling pitch had hit the batter? Ump had granted timeout before the release.
You just answered your own question.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 3:05pm
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Re: Batter requesting timeout
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Dont know about other parts of the country, but around here in both high school and ASA the umpires have been instructed that once the pitcher is on the plate and the batter is in the box we are only to grant time to the batter if there is a legitimate reason.
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Posted: 9/28/2009 6:43am
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Re: Batter requesting timeout
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the umpires have been instructed that once the pitcher is on the plate and the batter is in the box we are only to grant time to the batter if there is a legitimate reason.
How, pray tell, does the umpire know what is a legitimate reason, when the batter asks for time? Does he quiz her before he grants it?
"Time, blue"
"Well, I dunno. What you calling time for?"
"Got something in my eye, blue."
"SRIKE! Uh, okay, TIME!"
Doesn't sound like that I'd want to hold to that "instruction".
Jalamander
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Posted: 9/28/2009 11:30am
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Re: Batter requesting timeout
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Judgement call by the umpire - 3rd degree not necessary.
I have received similar advice (not to routinely grant a batter time) at HS association meetings.
Further advice noted that common sense should be used and that this is but one more way to avoid delaying the game.
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Posted: 9/28/2009 7:56pm
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Re: Batter requesting timeout
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Esay answer; just say no. Time is requested, it is at your discretion; unless you feel the pitcher is quick-pitching, either the pitcher is within her rights (and the batter has no need for time out), or you should be calling a violation on the pitcher. It can only be one or the other.
Granting time to allow the batter to control the pitcher's timing is just poor umpiring, and even worse game management.
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