Beith Juniors FC: My Site News: Scottish Cup Rankings over Past 3 Seasons

Sunday, December 4
Scottish Cup Rankings over Past 3 Seasons
Having a look at the latest betting odds and where we were placed made me start to think about our recent record in the cup and how it compared to the teams above us. I've had a look at the last 3 years in the competition and compared what round each of the teams got to and who it was that knocked them out. First of all, we must look at how Beith have fared in this period before looking at other teams.
In 2002- 2003, we started off well with a 6-1 away victory over Islavale and continued our travels up north in the next round with a 3-0 victory over Lewis Utd. The 3rd round proceeded with a walkover over old Scottish Junior Cup foes Glasgow Perthshire. In the 4th round we then had our only home tie of the competition, albeit at Winton Park against division rivals Hurlford Utd and won a hard fought game 3-0. We then played Shettleston away in the 5th round with John Craig scoring from the rebound after his penalty was saved in a 1-0 victory. Beith had exceeded expectations by reaching the quarter final stage and were drawn away to the holders Linlithgow Rose, where despite a brief comeback were beaten 6-1 following 2 sending offs early in the second half.
In 2003-04, expectations were certainly higher after the previous season, however the first half of the season did not go too smoothly with Beith struggling to find a settled team and indeed it wasn't until our Scottish Cup exit that the season really got going for the club. The Scottish Cup campaign began with the relief of a 1st round bye, followed by a 3-1 home victory over Lanark Utd and the same scoreline against Vale of Clyde in round 3. Round 4 followed with away to Whitburn's conquerors in the 3rd round, Rutherglen Glencairn, with former Beith favourite Jimmy Gentles in their backline, they defeated us 2-1 at their own Southcroft Park.
In 2004-05, we again received a 1st round bye and were drawn against 1995 Cup winners Camelon in round 2. After a score-less draw at Bellsdale, Beith travelled East very much the underdogs and a penalty shoot out win following a 2-2 draw saw Beith progress to round 3. A home draw was the reward and Beith entertained Lochore Welfare and showed some good Beith hospitality with a 6-0 victory over our guests. With this result giving the team confidence after their stuttering form in the league, Beith then got the hardest draw possible with a tie against Tayport awaiting them.  Beith certainly relished this tie and lost 2-0 with 2 goals in as many minutes after playing so well for the rest of the game, left many neutrals commenting on Beith's lack of luck on the day. Now Beith are fresh from that challenge and indeed have ambitions of playing against teams of this calibre on a more regular basis to continue their progression.
Now looking at other teams, it was important not to try and cherry pick any information so if you look at the table overleaf you will see a summarised breakdown of how each of the teams ranked with the same or better, betting odds have fared in the last three years with the important information of who it was that eliminated them from the competition. It makes quite interesting reading and makes some of the odds look a bit of place with some of the teams' performance in the Scottish Cup. Now of course, we must not forget that the level of league and amount of money already bet on each team will have an influence but even given that it is hard not to look at it and think Beith are being under-valued. This is of course a common complaint from Beith fans and I'm sure of other teams not quite recognised as being in the top echelons of the junior game but looking at the table it is hard not to agree with it.
You will notice that I have ordered the table according to ranking points. The basis for these are as follows, with every round progressed a point is gained, from a 1st round exit earning zero points to the eventual trophy win earning 8 points. It is therefore no surprise to see Tayport top the table after 2 trophy wins (8 points each) and 1 runners up place (7 points) in the past 3 years making up 23 points. Beith's own points are made up of 1 quarter final appearance (5 points) and two 4th round exits (3 points each) making up a respectable top 8 score of 11 points. This leaves Beith out performing teams as high as 8/1 Arthurlie, 12/1 Bathgate & Whitburn, 14/1 Glenafton and all teams from 16/1 to 33/1, a total of 24 teams ranked by the bookmakers with the same or better odds than us. It must be said Clydebank are at a slight advantage in that they were not involved in the 2002-03 competition.

 

Betting

 

2004-05

 

2003-04

 

2002-03

 

Ranking

Regional

Current

Rank

Odds

Teams

Finish

Conquerors

Finish

Conquerors

Finish

Conquerors

Points

League

Place

1

8/1

Tayport

Winners

n/a

Runners up

Carnoustie Panmure

Winners

n/a

23

EOS Super

1st

2

14/1

Maryhill

S/Final

Lochee Utd

Rd 5

Cambuslang Rangers

S/Final

Tayport

16

WOS Prem

7th

3

10/1

Linlithgow Rose

Rd 5

Renfrew

Rd 5

Hill of Beath Hawthorn

Runners up

Tayport

15

EOS Super

6th

4

12/1

Carnoustie Panmure

Rd 3

Lochee Utd

Winners

n/a

Rd 4

Kirkintilloch Rob Roy

13

EOS Super

5th

5

14/1

Renfrew

S/Final

Tayport

Rd 4

Linlithgow Rose

Rd 5

Cumnock Juniors

13

WOS Prem

1st

6

14/1

Bo'ness Utd

Rd 4

Petershill

Rd 4

Glenafton Athletic

S/Final

Linlithgow Rose

12

EOS Super

9th

7

12/1

Lochee Utd

Runners up

Tayport

Rd 3

Newtongrange Star

Rd 3

Cumnock Juniors

11

EOS Super

7th

8

33/1

Beith Juniors

Rd 4

Tayport

Rd 4

Rutherglen Glencairn

Qtr Final

Linlithgow Rose

11

WOS D1

5th

9

8/1

Arthurlie

Qtr Final

Lochee Utd

Rd 1

Arniston Rangers

Qtr Final

Bo'ness Utd

10

WOS Prem

10th

10

20/1

Neilston Juniors

Rd 5

Lochee Utd

Rd 4

Kilsyth Rangers

Rd 4

Fauldhouse Utd

10

WOS D1

3rd

11

25/1

Troon

Qtr Final

Maryhill

Rd 3

Linlithgow Rose

Rd 4

Linlithgow Rose

10

WOS D1

8th

12

12/1

Bathgate Thistle

Rd 5

Maryhill

Rd 4

Newtongrange Star

Rd 3

Troon

9

EOS Super

3rd

13

14/1

Glenafton Athletic

Rd 5

Tayport

Rd 5

Glenrothes

Rd 2

Fauldhouse Utd

9

WOS Prem

3rd

14

16/1

Bellshill Athletic

Rd 4

Lanark Utd

Rd 3

Sauchie

Rd 5

Linlithgow Rose

9

WOS Prem

12th

15

16/1

Kilsyth Rangers

Rd 2

Arthurlie

Qtr Final

Carnoustie Panmure

Rd 4

Cumnock Juniors

9

WOS Prem

4th

16

20/1

Petershill

Rd 5

Troon

Rd 3

Kilwinning Rangers

Rd 5

Maryhill

8

WOS D1

1st

17

12/1

Whitburn Juniors

Rd 4

Pollok

Rd 3

Rutherglen Glencairn

Rd 3

Fauldhouse Utd

7

EOS Super

2nd

18

16/1

Bonnyrigg Rose

Rd 1

Vale of Leven

Rd 4

Maryhill

Rd 5

Arthurlie

7

EOS Super

10th

19

20/1

Cumnock Juniors

Rd 2

Bellshill Athletic

Rd 2

Hurlford Utd

Qtr Final

Tayport

7

WOS Prem

6th

20

20/1

Glenrothes

Rd 1

Sauchie

S/Final

Tayport

Rd 2

Blairgowrie

7

EOS Super

11th

21

25/1

Kirkintilloch Rob Roy

Rd 2

Petershill

Rd 3

Tayport

Rd 5

Kilbirnie Ladeside

7

WOS D1

11th

22

20/1

Sauchie

Rd 2

Lugar Boswell Thistle

Qtr Final

Glenrothes

Rd 1

Maryhill

6

Lothians

7th

23

25/1

Fauldhouse Utd

Rd 2

Troon

Rd 2

Pollok

Rd 5

Bo'ness Utd

6

Lothians

3rd

24

25/1

Irvine Meadow

Rd 3

Newtongrange Star

Rd 1

Kilwinning Rangers

Rd 5

Tayport

6

Ayrshire

1st

25

33/1

Montrose Roselea

Rd 4

Neilston Juniors

Rd 3

Glenafton Athletic

Rd 2

Linlithgow Rose

6

Tayside

1st

26

16/1

Auchinleck Talbot

Rd 3

Bo'ness Utd

Rd 2

Sauchie

Rd 3

Linlithgow Rose

5

WOS Prem

5th

27

16/1

Shotts Bon Accord

Rd 3

Troon

Rd 2

Bellshill Athletic

Rd 3

Hill Of Beath Hawthorn

5

WOS Prem

8th

28

28/1

Lanark Utd

Rd 4

Lochee Utd

Rd 2

Beith Juniors

Rd 2

Baillieston Juniors

5

Central D1

9th

29

33/1

Largs Thistle

Rd 3

Linlithgow Rose

Rd 4

Sauchie

Rd 1

Cumnock Juniors

5

WOS D1

10th

30

33/1

Vale of Clyde

Rd 2

Glentanar

Rd 3

Beith Juniors

Rd 2

Strathspey Thistle

4

WOS D1

6th

31

28/1

Clydebank

Rd 3

Dunipace Juniors

Rd 1

Blackburn Utd

n/a

n/a

2

Central D1

4th

32

33/1

East Kilbride Thistle

Rd 1

Longside

Rd 2

Glenrothes

Rd 2

Bathgate Thistle

2

Central D1

2nd


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