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NLL_Blue
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Posted: 11/8/2009 12:41pm
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Pitchers Movement
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A focused question to ascertain if a specific pitcher's movement is considered legal, in the opinion of members of this message board.
Question involves one of the two accepted pitcher's movements other than the traditional step and throw, and disengage and throw. The Jab Step. My belief of this common movement, most always to first, is as follows: RHP in Set position. Pitcher becomes set then "jabs" (short step usually with little to no lift) pivot foot, usually slightly away from pitcher's plate and generally toward third base, and then steps with non-pivot foot toward first, with acceptable distance and direction, then throws.
Question: Is this same movement allowed if the Jab step is followed by a spinning movement and step with non-pivot foot toward second, with a throw there to follow?
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Posted: 11/8/2009 3:01pm
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Re: Pitchers Movement
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Yes; that's usually the way a pick to 2nd starts if a RH is going past 1st to get to 2nd.
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NLL_Blue
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Posted: 11/8/2009 6:53pm
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Re: Pitchers Movement
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While knowing that the Jab Step and the Jump Turn are allowed, where would one refer IN ANY RULE SET should a manager object to such a movement, and protest the lack of a corresponding Balk call, especially with the Jab step. As with the jab step, the pitcher clearly is not legally disengaging ( I know he doesn't have to), and the step of the pivot foot clearly is not going "directly" toward base of intended play.
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Manny_A
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Posted: 11/9/2009 5:20am
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Re: Pitchers Movement
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You probably won't find it in an actual rule set. This is what is written in J/R:
“Jab" Step (of the pivot foot): In cases of a right handed pitcher throwing to first, or a left handed pitcher throwing to third, or any pitcher throwing to second, a pitcher can take a "jab" or "stutter" step with his pivot foot before stepping to the base with his free foot. The motion of the "stutter" step and the resulting step of the free foot must be fluid and continuous; if the two motions are not continuous, there is a balk. Of course, the latter step must bring the free foot at, and nearer to, the pickoff base.
Here's what the MLBUM says:
It is legal for a right-handed pitcher to begin a pick-off move to first base by first moving his foot in the direction of third base provided that he makes a legal step toward first base with the non-pivot foot before throwing there and provided that the move is continuous and without interruption. A pitcher who makes such a pick-off move is considered to be in contact with the rubber when he makes his throw to first base.
While the MLBUM says nothing about going to other bases, it does specify that the move is considered an in-contact throw.
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